Friday, 23 December 2016

Post No. 964 - Plants can Feel and Learn

One of the many fascinating things covered in the book "Supernature", by Lyall Watson (my copy pub. Sceptre, 1989 [first printing 1986; first pub. Hodder and Stoughton, 1973; first pub. in paperback Coronet, 1974], ISBN 0 340 40429 1), is the coverage of experiments by Cleve Backster on the response of plants to pain. Subsequently, other have tried this experiment with varying results - success, the case of  Marcel Vogel (mentioned also in Stuart Holroyd's "Briefing for the Landing on Plant Earth" and described as a flashy showman), and not so in the case of more conventional scientists.

Recently, I came across a Mythbusters episode on YouTube which appears to successfully replicate Backster's work - however, (a) they're actually testing for something slightly different (ESP), and (b) the article by Wikipedia which touches on this claims there was more work on that episode - not shown on the YouTube clip, but described here - which led them to conclude that the results couldn't be replicated. Well, the extra tests they tried (yoghurt and eggs) and the removal of people from the room are basically absurd - the original experiment used live shrimp, which had a more highly developed response capacity: substituting yoghurt is missing the point entirely (although it is also possible that some idiots in the USA have distorted the original results - making them both stupid and harmful), and I also question the removal of people from outside the plant's aura - particularly when the experiment has been located in a shipping container for the purpose of electrical isolation! How is the basically electrical phenomenon of thought meant to penetrate that barrier (although that may be due to lack of training in telepathy)? 

For other views on this, see:
I want to emphasise again that an important part of this is that the experimenters are part of the experiment: I question how well some of these "scientific" experimenters going into a situation with a bias that "this is pseudoscience" are going to work.

I'll end this with a few more links on plants, which may suggest the knee jerk reactions of "scientists" are questionable:
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Tags: bias, Cleve Backster, consciousness, experiment, Lyall Watson, plants, science, sloppy thinking, Stuart Holroyd,
First published: Fryrsdagr, 23rd December, 2016
Last edited (excluding fixing typo's, Blogger's change of my formatting and other minor matters): Friday, 23rd December, 2016